Unpacked with Ron Harvey

Leading with GET: Gratitude Changes Everything

Matthew Arau Episode 130

Dr. Matthew Arau returns to share his groundbreaking "power of GET" concept that transforms leadership mindsets and organizational culture through gratitude, enthusiasm, and treasuring others.

• The Four C's of Upbeat Leadership: character, competence, connection, and clarity
• How leadership is often overcomplicated when simple frameworks can be more effective
• The importance of co-creating vision rather than imposing from the top down
• Dr. Arau's expanding resources including Upbeat daily journal and planner
• The powerful 9/11 story that led to the "power of GET" concept
• How adding "get to" to your to-do list transforms obligations into opportunities 
• G = Gratitude - living intentionally with appreciation for others
• E = Enthusiasm - embracing moments with passion (from "essence of God within")
• T = Treasure - valuing both others and the potential within ourselves
• Real-world examples of organizations transformed by the GET mindset
• How limiting beliefs create ceilings for what teams can achieve
• Resources available at powerofget.com including the GET Quiz

Visit powerofget.com to take the free GET Quiz and discover if you're a Grower, Energizer, or Trailblazer leader, then join the Upbeat Leaders community for ongoing support and resources.


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Speaker 1:

Welcome to Unpacked Podcast with your host leadership consultant, ron Harvey of GlobalCore Strategies and Consulting. Ron believes that leadership is the fundamental driver towards making a difference. So now to find out more of what it means to unpack leadership, here's your host, ron Harvey.

Speaker 2:

Good afternoon. This is Ron Harvey. I'm the Vice President, chief operating officer for Global Core Strategies and Consulting. We're a professional services leadership firm based out of Columbia, south Carolina, and our primary goal, honestly, at the end of the day, is to help our leaders be better connected, to take care of their organizations and create this pipeline of sustainable success within the organization and a sustainable pipeline of successful leaders. So we do a lot around sustainable leadership. We have fun with it, we're down to earth and we co-create everything with you. So if you ever decide to do work with us, you kind of got to work with us for it to get done.

Speaker 2:

We don't have all the answers and we will never show up that way, but today I pause and always do a podcast to give you some tips and some tricks and some behind the curtain things that you don't see all the time, and I have guests from around the world that join this podcast and we have a good time. So I'm happy to bring back a guest. He's probably only the third person I brought back, so that means he did something really, really good. Y'all appreciated him. So we have 120 episodes. He's the third person that I brought back twice, so that raises the stakes. So we're going to bring Matthew on in and we're going to talk about a little bit what we did. But, matthew, come on on man and unmute yourself over there and introduce yourself to the team.

Speaker 3:

All right, all right. So can you hear me? Okay, we're good man, yes, all right. Well, first of all, what an honor, ron, to join you for a second time. We had so much fun on our first podcast we just had to do it again and take it, take it up a notch. So, uh, wonderful. My name is dr matthew rao and I'm the the president and ceo founder of upbeat global, and we inspire positivity through leadership and music around the world, and, in addition, I'm also a professor of music at Lawrence University Conservatory of Music in Appleton, wisconsin, where I conduct the band and chair the music education department. I'm an author and speaker, trainer and coach, and so, like you, ron, I wear many hats and I'm excited for our upcoming conversation.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't know how he does it all. I mean, and as we get into it you hear a lot of stuff he's done since the last time we talked, which is really really good, because he's growing and he's continued to lean into it and have fun with it and he's still smiling, so that means he's enjoying it. And he said hey, man, when do we have the second conversation? I said I would love to. So we're back. We're back in front of you and so so, matthew, last time we talked, we talked about the four C's. Can you bring people back up to speed before?

Speaker 3:

we introduce them to more content. Can you refresh the four C's? Absolutely, yeah, I'm really excited and as I re-listened to the podcast this morning so I can remember exactly what we talked about, and, as the author, and for those of you watching the video, I'm holding up the or, if you're not seeing the video, I'm holding up my book, my first book, which is Upbeat Mindset, mindfulness and Leadership in Music, education and Beyond. And in this book, which is written for everybody, it's written for people from all fields, all backgrounds businesses, corporations, entrepreneurs and what I share in this book, particularly in part three, which focuses on leadership, I share the four C's of upbeat leadership. And you know what? Sometimes leadership can be made to be complicated. Have you found that to be the case, ron? Sometimes like-.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, leadership is complicated.

Speaker 3:

Yes, yeah, and there's so many books, yes, yeah, and I and I, and there's so many books. You know you can go to a bookstore there'll be, you know, hundreds of books on leadership and all these definitions of leadership, and it can almost be overwhelming. And and and like you, ron, I'm a reader. I feel like leaders are readers, leaders are learners, yes, and so I love soaking it up, I love learning from mentors, mentors and hearing great leaders speak, but reading voraciously. And I used to teach, you know, other leadership principles and strategies from proven techniques like Stephen Covey, john Maxwell and John Wood, and all wonderful teachers, all wonderful teachers. But I eventually everything coalesced into my own concept of leadership, which I'll share right now, which is the four C's of upbeat leadership.

Speaker 3:

And it's rooted in character, which is the first C. And you know, without character, nothing else matters. I think that's so important. You know what is character? What's that? What are we grounded in? Are we grounded in values and principles that are rooted? Otherwise we're just like on shifting sand and it's so difficult to build trust, which is essential for leaders and organizations to have high trust.

Speaker 3:

The next C is competence. So you've got character and then competence, because you could, because you could have integrity, treat other people well, but you have to be able to walk your talk. You have to be able to lead by example and role model, which is why competence matters so much. Now, competence isn't something we're necessarily born with. It's something we can build each and every day, and that's important. Just like character, character can be built and grown and in fact, I think oftentimes character is a choice. What character are we choosing? So we got character and competence.

Speaker 3:

The next C is so essential. It's connection, because you can have a great character, you could be highly competent, but as a leader, we need to be able to connect with others, build relationships, communicate effectively, listen authentically, and that's where connection matters so much. The final C, the fourth C, is clarity. You got to know where you're headed, and a leader needs to have a vision. I'm also a believer in working collaboratively with the team, so I think the vision works best when it's co-created, yes, and when it's not just imposed from the top down. I love getting ideas from team members where every voice is valued and is significant, and we distill all of that to come up with our vision and having a clear vision of where we're headed. So you can see, the four C's are character, competence, connection and clarity, and with those you're really off to a great start.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I love it. Thank you for going back and that's what we talked about on the last podcast and you shared those in there in your book. You know, as I'm listening to you and you're walking through the four C's again, you know what's amazing is, as you're talking and you talk about, you know, people being a part of the conversation, to co-create mentality, and someone asked me in a workshop I was doing a keynote, and someone says well, how do you get people to buy in, you know, into whatever it is that you're doing? I say it's impossible to get people to buy in when they don't get the way in Great way of saying it. I say so, if you want me to be on board, then respect my opinion, respect my thoughts, respect what I bring to the table as you're making the decision that this is the way you want to go. So you said it and that's called collaboration, that's called connection.

Speaker 2:

If you want people to be on board with where you're taking your company to, or you're taking your team to, or you're taking your organization or your community or your family, you can't ignore people. You kind of got to make sure that people get their way in and your character will determine if you are going to let people weigh in your level of competency so you don't feel insecure, is going to allow you to let people weigh in, because if you're insecure and you're not competent, you're not listening to anybody else. So you got to have competency so you don't feel insecure. And then you come back to the other one of your connection with people is going to be huge at the end of the day, and being crystal clear on where we're headed at. So I love that you brought that back full circle.

Speaker 2:

So, as we're talking leadership and we're talking about the direction that we're going, I want to go into this new concept of what you're currently working on. We're in the green room and you're talking and you want to talk about the power of Git. You've built some other tools. So before you introduce that, you've created some more tools to go along with your book. Can you share those with us?

Speaker 3:

Absolutely. Yeah, it's been an exciting productive time, that's for sure.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 3:

And I'll share it. So Upbeat. The original book was released in December 2021. And when it was released it really touched people. It was the timing right.

Speaker 3:

We're coming out of the pandemic and this was the premise is that we can all choose our upbeat in life, and it comes from the metaphor of the conductor's upbeat. When the conductor gives the upbeat to start a piece of music, they lift their hands and their arms up, they breathe in and then they exhale, and then the downbeat is when the music is created. So music is actually created twice once in the mind of the musicians and secondly in reality, with instruments or the voices, which I think is really amazing. The metaphor is extended to us in our life in this following way, which is our thoughts are the upbeats to our actions, our attitude is the upbeat to any situation, and we choose our thoughts and our attitude, we choose our upbeat.

Speaker 3:

And this book, you know, is divided into three parts. The first part is called Ignite and it focuses on the reader right and it begins with choose your upbeat, the power of get, supercharge your morning and sustain your upbeat all day. And then part two brings it into your organization. So it's like creating an upbeat mindset organization, mindset in the organization or mindfulness in the organization, then creating an upbeat culture. Mindset in the organization or mindfulness in the organization, then creating an upbeat culture. Then part three is all about leadership in the four C's. So this book in my field, in music education, became an instant bestseller and within two months it was already in a second printing.

Speaker 2:

Congratulations, it's really exciting.

Speaker 3:

It's touched a lot of hearts and souls and it started off in the music education industry and now it's touched a lot of hearts and souls. And it started off in the music education industry and now it's jumped. It's jumped beyond into all fields, which is very exciting. So there's been a lot of demand for like, what's next, matthew? What's next, how can we dig deeper? Demand for a journal. And so I created, along with my co-author, paige Rauscheber. We created a daily journal Personal Reflections for Inspiration and Transformation, and it works alongside the original book Upbeat, but it's also a great standalone. And there's 120 days here. There's a meaningful quote from the book with question, a different question every single day, but then there's some questions that stay throughout a chapter, so you get two pages. It's also set up to be like a bullet journal, so really, really cool way. I think journaling in the morning or journaling before you go to bed is just a wonderful way to prime your mind, don't you?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, I'm glad that you're talking about it, because oftentimes most of us don't journal and when those thoughts show up we can't remember it or that thing that you think of. So I think journal is always very, very valuable for your growth and for you to be very, very mindful and thoughtful of what are you thinking and what are you going through. So I love that you've attached a journal to it, because it gives you a chance to capture your most inner thoughts that you may never say yes, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Because, as humans, I don't think we reflect enough. I think we were on to the next thing, because the way time is and because how you know consumed people are, how busy people are, so much thrown at us. Very rarely do we just pause and spend time with us and our thoughts. Very rarely do we just pause and spend time with us and our thoughts.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, being reflective is such an important quality of an effective leader, I believe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then the second resource that's been created that people are loving is the upbeat daily planner, the ultimate organizer for your get to do's. Yes, and I put so much work into this. You know, studied some of what I thought were some of the best planners out there, took the best of the best, aligned it with upbeat, with the book, and and there's there's even ways to like assess your how you're doing in the areas of the four C's.

Speaker 3:

Every day is two full pages and a quote from the book, questions to really get, or reflective ideas to get your morning upbeat going. Your get to do list you know you got your planner area, a little sticky thoughts area, and there's every day there's a mindful breathing technique which is really, really cool. And then you got your evening upbeat questions here. And then you got your evening upbeat questions here. But again, this is just a beautiful way to kick off your day, to get everything organized, Because you know, I don't know about you but it's like if it's not in the calendar it's not getting done.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, I know I live by that. People always ask and say, look, I got to put it on the calendar so I can respect your time and I'll be where I'm supposed to be. So the calendar is a lifesaver for me. And you think about, you use the Git upbeat and then you're leaning into the Git. But I want to go into the power of Git. That's what we were talking. You're doing different things. I don't know how you make all the time to do all the stuff that you're doing. You're at school, you're a professor, you're running a business. You're creating content which for entrepreneurs. If you're a professor, you're running a business, you're creating content which for entrepreneurs. If you're listening, that's what it's really going to take. You're going to have to find the time to do the things that you are. That's your purpose of living. What is that? And are you investing time in it? So I'm glad that you're doing it. Can you, can we pivot a little bit and begin to unpack the power of Git? You?

Speaker 3:

bet you bet. So if it's okay, ron, I'm going to share a story. Go for it. And this story is challenging. It's difficult actually for me to share because it takes me to one of the most challenging moments in my life. Yes, and I don't know about you and your listeners, but I've found that oftentimes the most difficult, the hardest moments in our life are when we reflect, looking back. Sometimes, the greatest lessons are learned from the hardest times, yes, and so this is one of those days, and it begins on September 12, 2020.

Speaker 3:

And I woke up that morning in our home in Nino, wisconsin, where my wife Marilee and I live, and we have a swimming pool. Because it's in Wisconsin, the pool can't be open all year round, as you can imagine, so it's open from May to about the end of September, and it was September 12. And I love going for a swim every single morning. I'm very disciplined and committed, so every day I'm home and the pool's open, I'm going for a swim. But when I woke up that morning, it was dark, dreary, cold, it was 40 degrees outside, it was windy and it was raining, and it wasn't just a light rain. It was 40 degrees outside, it was windy and it was raining, and it wasn't just a light rain, it was a Wisconsin deluge which is like, imagine, just buckets from heaven, right. So I looked outside and I I guess I'm not going for a swim, darn. And so I made some tea and I did my morning routine of mindful breathing and meditation. And then, instead of going for a swim, I got out a notebook to journal and I became much. We were talking about reflection, ron and I became much more personally reflective during the pandemic, especially during the shutdown, and it was so quiet, and I took much more mindful walks in nature and just I was really thinking about life's big questions actually. So I was journaling mindful walks in nature. I was really thinking about life's big questions actually, so I was journaling and because it was September 12, I thought about the day before, which is September 11, 2020. But I didn't journal about the day before it.

Speaker 3:

Actually, in my mind it took me back to 9-11, september 11, 2001. And on 9-11, I was a middle school band director in Loveland, colorado, in my fifth year of teaching. When I arrived at school that morning, I had no idea that our lives were about to change forever. In fact, I went into the front office to check my teacher mailbox and I ran into this middle school principal and he said Matthew, I just heard something really strange on the radio. Somebody flew a plane into one of the towers in New York City and that's all he knew. And for the listeners that remember that day, if you weren't right there in New York City, the news was pretty sketchy. Actually, in the beginning we weren't quite sure what was happening. So I went into my band room and I turned on the television and I could see that it wasn't just a small plane that accidentally flew into the towers. Right, it was. It's the most horrific sight I'd ever seen in my life up to that point.

Speaker 3:

About 10-15 minutes later, my first students started walking into the band room. They were 11 year old students and they saw what was on tv and we all just set our instruments down on the ground and we just watched in silence the entire class period. We watched the news as it unfolded before our very eyes and at the end of that very first class we saw the first tower crumble in flames and we had no words. And then the second class came in of sixth grade band students and we sat in silence and watched the news happen live in front of our very eyes. And at the end of the second class we saw the second tower crumble in flames and we had no words.

Speaker 3:

And then I had a planned period in lunch, followed by two seventh grade bands and two eighth grade bands. Well, the first seventh grade band student started walking into the band room and one of the students. She saw that the television was on showing the news and she said we've been watching the news in every single class today. It's really hard. Can we turn the TV off? Can we get our instruments out? Can we play today? Can we make music? And I said you know what? That's a great idea. So we got our instruments out and we started warming up and we got out our method book that we learned music from. And we were at the very beginning of the year, it was fall, so we were at the beginning of the book. But it turned out that number six in the book we were using was the first piece that teaches the three, four time signature, three beats in a measure. But it was also a piece titled America and the words are my country, tis of thee.

Speaker 1:

And it's just six measures.

Speaker 3:

It sounded like this and we played America over and over and over again. In fact, that's all. We played the entire class just over and over again, and the next seventh grade band the same thing. Then the eighth graders came in and we got our instruments out and we warmed up and they already had a piece of music in their folders which was the most appropriate piece of music for that day. It was Amazing Grace, wow. And we played Amazing Grace. We played Amazing Grace over and over and over and over again, and on that day my students and I came to understand the true superpower of music in a way that none of us had ever experienced before, because on that day there were no words to express how we felt.

Speaker 3:

There truly weren't. And I came to understand what is meant when it said. When words fail, music speaks.

Speaker 3:

And as I was journaling about 9-11 and reflecting on that and being in the midst of a global pandemic, something in my mind switched as I began to make my to-do list for the day and oftentimes a to-do list feels like a have to do list, doesn't it?

Speaker 3:

Like just a checklist of things we have to get done to survive and just make it through the day. But in my mind, everything switched and I added just one simple three letter word to my to-do list and that word was get. So now my to-do list read something like this I get to email Sarah, I get to call Mark, I get to prepare to teach my classes, I get to study my music to conduct. And then I wrote I get to dance in the rain and I get to go for a swim. And I went outside and I in my swim shorts and it was freezing cold and it was raining. But I said I was going to do this. I thought about I get, I have a swimming pool, I get to do this and I'm not going to pass up this chance just because it's freezing cold outside. And I went out to the lip of the pool and I did just like a little short, little jig because I said I was going to dance.

Speaker 3:

And I dove into the pool and as I was swimming in the pool, I was thinking about all that I get to do right, I get to have this life, I get to have this breath, I get to inspire others through music and through leadership. And every moment in my life, I realize, is a get moment. And I thought about another powerful word. As I think about the power of get, I thought about another powerful word and that word is yet the power of yet. And Carol Dweck shares with us about the power of growth mindset in a book called Mindset, and she has a great TED talk about the power of yet. And if somebody ever says to you as a leader, like I can't do something, you can respond no, you can't do it yet.

Speaker 3:

I thought well, why is yet so powerful? It's because yet is about the future, yet is about hope. But why is get so powerful? Get is powerful because it's about the present moment. The now is the only moment that's ever guaranteed. Ron, you and I get to be together right now and enjoy and appreciate and listen to each other and grow together through this conversation. And when you start to think about every moment in your life, almost every single moment is a get moment, isn't it? Even you can think about the end of our life. Then every breath is a get moment. But what if you don't wait? What if you don't have to wait until the end? What if you could appreciate it right now and realize that every moment of your life is a get moment when you can embrace it that way?

Speaker 3:

So I got out of the swimming pool and I was evidently very excited about this and I thought, wow, what if I added meaning to each one of the letters of get? So G is for gratitude, to live my life intentionally with this attitude of gratitude. I thought how many times have I felt appreciation for somebody else? And I've kept it to myself. Right, we often do that, we keep it ourselves. But I thought you know what People need to hear that I'm not going to keep it within, I'm going to share gratitude openly. E is for enthusiasm, to live my life with enthusiasm, to embrace the moments.

Speaker 3:

And as I was writing my book Upbeat, I looked up the origin and the meaning of the word enthusiasm and it added even more significance to me and I'll share with you right now what enthusiasm comes from. It comes from the Greeks. When you break the word down, theus means God, en means within, eniasm is essence. So enthusiasm means the essence of God within. How would you live your life if you knew that? That the essence of God is within each one of us?

Speaker 3:

And then T is treasure To treasure the people in our lives, but also to remember the lost, the often hidden treasure, which is the treasure within each one of know serving others, giving to others. We forget that we are a treasure. We are treasure to shine brightly, and when we shine brightly and embrace who we are fully, we give permission and encourage others to shine their own light. And so that's the origin of the story of the power of get Ron, and I'm so excited to share it with your listeners. And what's been amazing is the ripple effect that the power of get, ron, and I'm so excited to share it with your listeners. And what's been amazing is the ripple effect that the power of get has had in these past three years, as I've shared it nationally and internationally. And we can go into that, the impact, because I think that's so important. How can, how can the world be changed with just a three letter word, and that is is the next part of the story.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I love it, thank you. Thank you for for talking and sharing a story that that you know. Oftentimes we don't want to be vulnerable and be transparent as leaders about the moment that shifted your entire life and how you have to grow and and oftentimes we make it look easier than it is. Yeah, and we don't share how difficult it is to do it, and I and I share that because, because it's difficult, someone's counting on you to get through it. Someone needs you to do the difficult thing to inspire and encourage them. So, leaders, you got to do the difficult. You got to be vulnerable. You got to help people understand that, even when you think you have all the answers, life will punch you in the mouth and you still got to get back up. That's right. Yeah, people are waiting for us to get back up. So I will tell you that we're at a place in our societies today where people are waiting for leaders to get back up. Well said, well said Across the across the board, you know.

Speaker 2:

So I'm glad that you talked about gratitude. You know that's that's important and being enthusiastic about it, and understanding your treasures and we all have them. I think sometimes we work so hard we forget to pay attention to our treasures. Quite honestly, I've watched leaders time and time again work hard for for meeting the needs of their family, but they forget to give their family their time. Yes, yes. So, leaders, it's more than just providing resources and a nice place to live and money and food, and, like, the most important thing you can ever give anybody is your time. Amen, so ensure that you pay attention. So I love that you're sharing this, matthew. Amen, so ensure that you pay attention. So I love that you're sharing this, matthew. I want to, I want to get into. I mean, you have the get quiz and you mentioned that people can, can, can assess themselves and you talk about, like, how does this help help people that listen to this podcast move forward?

Speaker 3:

Wonderful. Well, folks, I encourage you to go to this URL simply power of get dot com, power of getcom and put that in your URL in your search bar and just hit return or enter and it'll take you to the upbeat leaders community, which is built on a platform called Instaloop, so it's off of social media, so no scrolling, it takes you right there. And when you get there, you'll have an opportunity to take what I call the Get Quiz G-E-T Quiz and there's simply four questions and when you respond to these four questions, your responses will lead to sharing with you what your dominant leadership style is and your strengths and areas to grow in. So it's tailored to you and it's a brilliant quiz that my team and I built for you and it's wonderful and it's your entryway into working more closely with me through the community, and it's a free community and it's just a wonderful place to continue to grow. And so it begins with knowing yourself, learning about yourself as a leader, which is very exciting and I'll give you kind of a sneak peek. So, based on G-E-T, the three leaders are a grower, an energizer or a trailblazer. Which one are you? And I know your listeners are going to want to find out and I love, as I shared.

Speaker 3:

The third C is connection. I love connecting with people and that's just so wonderful. There are opportunities for people to work even more closely with me if they should choose, are opportunities for people to work even more closely with me if they should choose, and I have an upbeat leadership Academy membership group, which is really incredible, and we work together weekly and just want to share that. For those people that really want to take it to the next level. You have that opportunity. But I have that free group on power of getcom. I also have a Facebook group called upbeat leaders yes, and there have a Facebook group called Upbeat Leaders yes, and there's thousands of members of that group and I post there three times a day often, and it's a collaborative space. So it's not just like a sit and get, but collaborative, authentic, real conversations that lift and encourage people. So there's many ways for us to stay connected. My website's upbeatglobalcom and there's lots of resources there as well, and, of course, you can follow me on LinkedIn and all social media platforms.

Speaker 3:

But the power of get has been the most transformative message and it's amazing again, like just a mindset shift. I've had teachers that have shifted their mindset from, you know, a low morale like I have to go to school, I'm just burnout. So many teachers have been burnout ways that we can understand what they've been going through. But a mindset shift has led to an energy shift. It's changed the way their students feel it's in. It's changed the recruitment and retention of their classrooms by double right. We're like twice as many students have joined their band classrooms. As an example, there are entire school districts that are adopting upbeat philosophy and the power of get for their district. And when I asked one of the superintendents there's a school district in Calgary that's becoming an upbeat school district. I asked the chief superintendent. I said well, what does this mean to you? And they said we want to shift from a have to school district to a get to school district.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's amazing. I mean, you know, when you just change your mindset. You know I always tell people, you know, at the end of the day, you know, serving 21 years of military service, you know, for our country, you know you get to do those things because I've been places where people don't get to do it. You know we take, we take the freedom of speech for granted. I get to to have free speech. You know, I get to.

Speaker 2:

You know, even when you think of a driver's license, most people don't realize they get to drive.

Speaker 2:

Yes, as long as they pay attention to the laws and the rules, because at any day those licenses can be can be revoked, so we get to drive. It's not a written principle that you, you get a driver's license like we get to do those things. But when you think about the get man said, it really is important for all of us as we listen to this, it starts with gratitude. It's amazing to watch people complain when they're inconvenienced and they're living in a phenomenal home with a phenomenal job, with some things that may not be going well, but they are living in a home with a loaf of bread under their arms and they're complaining. I mean. So I think it's so important for us to really always pause every morning when you wake up is to be grateful, absolutely Like to to really just pause and reflect on all the things we'll get to do from that moment that we wake up, cause you wake up, you're going to get to do a lot of things if you just have the right mindset.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and what you begin with sets up the trajectory for the rest of your day.

Speaker 2:

I call it the upbeat for the rest of the day. So I love that you allowed us to unpack it. I love that you already gave everyone your information, how to find you, what you have out there and really for coming back on the show and being able to share. I love the story, I mean, and so thank you for being transparent and vulnerable there. Is there anything that you haven't shared as we begin to wrap up for our audience, that you would leave them with a cliffhanger? Like last time we left a cliffhanger, what do we leave for a cliffhanger this time?

Speaker 3:

That's a really great one. Well, I think you know we've talked about trust, we've talked about vulnerability, and I guess I would. The next thing I would share is what's the limiting belief that holds you back right? What's that limiting belief?

Speaker 3:

I think self-talk is such an important area to continue to dive deeper into, and in my book, upbeat, I really go into that. But I think that oftentimes we are the limiter. Our mindset, our belief system can be the limiting ceiling on what our team can achieve. Yes, and so the real thing to focus on is how can I replace those limiting beliefs with a positive belief, because what you believe affects what you can achieve. Yes, and I think that's the next step for us as leaders is to, first of all, self-awareness right, acknowledging our fears and our doubts, and what are those and what are those based on. And then how do I crush those limiting beliefs, conquer them, how do I conquer overwhelm? How do I get to the other side? And this is what I help provide folks when we work either in group coaching or the membership group or one-on-one, because that's like what's stopping you to get to that next level. What I often find is it's our own limiting beliefs, so let's get after those.

Speaker 2:

Yes, love it. Thank you, matthew, I appreciate it. Once again, everyone, as I tell you, we're always going to give you a really great show that we're going to unpack. We never know what we're going to unpack, but we're going to unpack something that's going to be helpful and useful for you. And what I will tell you, if whatever your dream is, if your dream is big enough, bring on a team. I've never met anyone that's really great, that did it by themselves. Ever so true, I've never seen that person. That is so good that they don't need anybody. If you're that good, then there ought to be people around you helping you get it done. So until next time, matthew and I will sign off. Thank y'all for joining us. It's always a pleasure and until next time we'll see you again on another episode of unpack with Ron Harvey.

Speaker 1:

Have a great day everyone. Take care everybody. Well, we hope you enjoyed this edition of Unpacked Podcast with leadership consultant Ron Harvey. Remember to join us every Monday as Ron unpacks sound advice, providing real answers for real leadership challenges. Until next time, remember to add value and make a difference where you are for the people you serve, because people always matter.

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